Home made lures on the "Tyenna" .

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Home made lures on the "Tyenna" .

Post by Tyenna Dave » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:10 pm

Have been making a few lures of late due to a few injuries that have kept me from fishing .
Not all was lost though as i did manage to test a few this week in two short stints .
The fish were on the chew so testing lures worked out quite well !
The 4.5cm yellow mauler done the job but wasn't exactly what they were after, though two fish were caught with this little number .
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The 5cm gold bomber was a little too bright for the conditions earlier in the week but still i managed another two fish .
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One fish from my 3cm midget :)
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The new F7 replica was a goer taking a few fish quite quickly .
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It was time to test the 4cm red/white minnow .Have swam this lure at Pedder before but never in the "T" .
It took this big girl before being busted off by another in the same hole .
Very disapointed to loose the lure more than the fish .
It must of been a winner as i had flicked another lure for no joy and the red machine was taken on the first and third casts !
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Had to get a Lox shot :)
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Self timer shot .
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Nearly ready to swim free .
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A pose i stole and now use often ,thanks to the nice camera work of Harry j of NW Tas :D
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Re: Home made lures on the "Tyenna" .

Post by diemai » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:24 pm

@ Tyenna Dave

Very nice trout and also nice little lures thumbsupsmilie , ...........I'm carving a few smaller trout lures these days as well , ....it's a finger breaking job to me , I'd use double time compared to an "average" sized blanks .

I have two little bug blanks so far , ...only gonna rig one hook to them , .......carvers that make such tiny lures with even two hooks assembled earn my full admiration !

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Post by Tyenna Dave » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:11 pm

Thanx Diemai !
Those little 3cm jobs are tough to fit two hooks onto though i did manage to get the spacing right .
Small #14 VMC trebles were used to get them to fit and i made a special trip into the tackle store to buy a pack or two (2 hour round trip).
They are now very expensive treble hooks with the added fuel costs ,Ha Ha !
And there was no finger busting as the small ones are made from Balsa :)
Is that cheating ? LOL !
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Post by diemai » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:22 pm

@ Tyenna Dave

.............two hours ride, ........the things we do for lures -duh lol !

I haven't worked with balsa that much so far , too soft for my taste , .........second thing is , that I never was in need of a very buoyant material for such tiny lures , ....but now I've joined another fishing club , in their waters I have chances to catch trout and even salmon(quite rare around here) , so I'm giving it a go on smaller homemades as well now .

But rather than balsa I much prefer making them out of PVC hardfoam , same buoyancy like balsa , but easier to work down in my opinion , ...no woodgrain to care about whilst carving and sands like a dream , yet durable enough to hold epoxied screw eyes when neccesssary .

But best thing is that this stuff is not vulnerable to water sepage at all , ...to balance the lures with lead ballast I can just throw them in a water bucket straightaway , ..I may even dry them with a hair dryer afterwards and procceed with glueing in the ballast and wire forms almost immediately .

Only drawbacks are the occassionally enclosed small airbubbles inside of the PVC board , ......but if desired , some putty takes care of these .

Here are the first two of my small lures so far , I had already tested the "bug" in the tub , ....it swims pretty fine , .......the "hornet" blank I just carved yesterday at work , did fit in the bib , wireform and ballast this morning , ....now awaiting the glue !
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But I don't think , that I could still go any smaller than this lol !

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Post by Tyenna Dave » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:31 pm

Thanx for the PVC tips Dieter !
I have never seen PVC board used for making lures but it sounds as if it has all the qualities one looks for in a material .
I love the little trouting lures you have whipped up !
The Hornet has one big bend in its shape ,how deep do you think it will go ??
They look like garaunteed fish catchers, very nice !!!
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Post by diemai » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:01 pm

Tyenna Dave wrote:Thanx for the PVC tips Dieter !
I have never seen PVC board used for making lures but it sounds as if it has all the qualities one looks for in a material .
I love the little trouting lures you have whipped up !
The Hornet has one big bend in its shape ,how deep do you think it will go ??
They look like garaunteed fish catchers, very nice !!!
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They use it in the US for multi-sectioned swimbaits quite a bit , ......no hazzles about possible water sepage with all of their joints and hinges .

Hard to find over here , unlike in the USA it's not used for building construction locally , .......one guy on a German site used to sell scrap pieces from his work , ......he said , that it was used for insulation of refridgerators .

Guess , that there are differnt qualities and densities around , ...but this stuff I have is just the real deal , .......not that much suited for big and voluminous lures , as one needs a lot of space for lead ballast , ....one issue about these swimbaits .

Would have loved to assemble a little wider bib to the hornet , but ran out of suitable polycarbonate pieces right now(did not want to use aluminium sheet for weight reasons), hope it would work with that narrower one as well , ......guess , that it might go down 1,5 metres like this , ........I've learned , that pronounced curved lurebodies do not dive quite as deep as rather straight ones would with a comparable bib size and angle .

off to lateshift now puke , ....cheers , Dieter howdy
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Post by Tyenna Dave » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:56 pm

Nice peice of info there Dieter !
I learn something new every time i visit this site :)
Will do a little research here and see if the right PVC material is available in Aus .
Had no idea a bent profile would not dive as deep as a straight profile .
Very good info and it should help with my own craetions !!!
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Post by diemai » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:37 am

Tyenna Dave wrote:Nice peice of info there Dieter !
I learn something new every time i visit this site :)
Will do a little research here and see if the right PVC material is available in Aus .
Had no idea a bent profile would not dive as deep as a straight profile .
Very good info and it should help with my own craetions !!!
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........guess , that everyone with a good knowledge in physics would kick my butt for this explanation -duh , but I see it this way lol :

A curvy lurebody leads to a pronounced and strong wobble , whereas a rather straight-bodied , minnow-style blank wiggles more moderately , ......so I think , that somehow this stronger wobble and vibration creates a kinda lift to the lure not allowing it to dig as deep as it's more slender cousin(provided bib size and angle and also remaining buoancy are comparable) .

I had also observed this feature on another occassion many years ago , .........once I've made two round-bodied lures out of a broomstick , both almost equal(within the typical boundaries of pure handwork) in their dimensions and buoancy , ....both had an aluminium screw-on bib of same size and angle with the line tie mounted on it , ........BUT , .........one of these lures was a one piece blank and the other cut apart about two thirds of the length from the head to make up for a jointed lure !

So guess what , .........the one piece lure dug about twice as deep compared to the jointed one , but which of course had a much livelier "snake" swimming motion , the one-piece just sported a moderate roll and "X"-ing motion .

It's been many years ago , but I was pretty much surprised to see this , so I still remember ,....... though I seem not to have these lures anymore .

Dave , ....if possible try to get your hands on such PVC material before purchasing it finally , .......as I said , there are different densities around and you would not want to get stuff not suitable .

Just came across this vid some days ago , .......the insulation material , this Irish fella is using , seems to be way softer compared to PVC decking , thus he's covering the finished blank with some kinda resin to provide a sort of a shell or casing around the softer core (European pike might shred that material with ease being in a pure condition).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH4rfkYq4YA

With PVC hardfoam such won't be neccessary , probably only some filler or thick primer paint required to sand a smooth surface , if the material should turn out to be of a more porous kind (I also have some samples of this type that someone from the USA has sent to me before).

good luck , .....cheers , Dieter howdy
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Post by Tyenna Dave » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:26 pm

More handy info Dieter !
Intersting how the jointed lure did not dive as deep as the one peice .I will have to experiment myself and see how deep my new jointed creation dives when i make a replica one peice in the same profile .
I do also coat my balsa lures with a metholated spirit based primer that fills quite deep holes and sands up a treat .
Being a Painter & Decorator it was a simple choice to use this paint for a filler .
Might go well filling in the holes on the PVC material as it dries rather quickly also .
Thanx for the info and i will have a look at the you-tube clip too :)
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Post by diemai » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:11 am

@ Tyenna Dave

I'm using an acrylic primer on all of my lures , .....nothing special , just the ordinary stuff from the tool mart .

Haven't tried it yet , but probably solvent based primer might affect the PVC surface , ......gotta try on a scrap piece first .

To fill those bigger airbubbles occasionally appearing on a PVC blank's surface I'd just gather some PVC sawdust from around my vise and mix it with my epoxy glue to make up for a kinda putty , file and sand it flush after curing .

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